tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8373573052582581717.post7580972353790009856..comments2023-06-06T06:49:04.399-07:00Comments on Cinder Bridge: ASCAP: Legalized Mafia?cinderkeyshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01578961959712679966noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8373573052582581717.post-42272739781261072282008-10-14T09:08:00.000-07:002008-10-14T09:08:00.000-07:00"Real nice coffeehouse ya got here. Shame if somet..."Real nice coffeehouse ya got here. Shame if something happened to it."DeppityBobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03739975299662947480noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8373573052582581717.post-475644785845717112008-10-09T19:52:00.000-07:002008-10-09T19:52:00.000-07:00I had the same thought at first. "$800 for a year...I had the same thought at first. "$800 for a year? That wouldn't be so bad." And it's not ... if you want your bands to be able to play covers. Black Rose Caffe doesn't, and they should have the right to make that decision without constant bombardment from the IP police.<BR/><BR/>Charging for a service that a business needs is reasonable. Charging to make the harassment stop is more like a protection racket. I don't care if it's for $70/month or $5/month.cinderkeyshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01578961959712679966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8373573052582581717.post-48309724925313802512008-10-09T17:54:00.000-07:002008-10-09T17:54:00.000-07:00The music industry's tactics with regards to IP ar...The music industry's tactics with regards to IP are clearly shortsighted and ultimately self-destructive, but I've got say that $70/mo. for a blanket license (if that is, indeed, what they're offering) does not strike me as fundamentally unreasonable.David Powellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02416064825544118818noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8373573052582581717.post-80869783788970603322008-10-09T09:58:00.000-07:002008-10-09T09:58:00.000-07:00That part doesn't bother me as much. They can't se...That part doesn't bother me as much. They can't set up telescreens in every venue to monitor exactly which songs people are covering. And if they made owners report every song, or required artists to submit their set lists before performing and not deviate from them, it would be a royal pain in the ass. Chances are that the more radio play an artist gets, the more people will cover them (though probably that's becoming less true in the age of the Internet). It seems like a reasonable proxy.<BR/><BR/>But. BUT. If the system is necessarily inaccurate, then ASCAP and BMI don't have the moral authority to hound every tiny coffeehouse in the nation. I don't think Mick and Keith have been lying awake nights, worrying that Cinder Bridge will slip and play "Miss You" at the Black Rose Caffe.<BR/><BR/>On another note, it occurs to me that you, Kevin, are the only person who has ever covered a song I wrote. I'll tell you where to send the check. ;)cinderkeyshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01578961959712679966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8373573052582581717.post-41643811155830564372008-10-09T06:52:00.000-07:002008-10-09T06:52:00.000-07:00It gets even worse. ASCAP allocates the royalties...It gets even worse. ASCAP allocates the royalties it collects mainly on the basis of radio play. So if you cover little-known songwriters, chances are they won't see a penny. Instead the vast majority of royalties will go to popular artists, whether they are getting covered or not.Kevinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04388438812668506966noreply@blogger.com